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UAW's push to organize Nissan plant in Miss. faces daunting odds

Tennessean -- As Americans observe Labor Day, the working person’s holiday, a once-strong labor union faces a watershed moment in its efforts to rebuild membership by organizing autoworkers in an increasingly anti-union South.

The UAW has ramped up efforts to gain a foothold amid the booming foreign-transplant auto industry below the Mason-Dixon Line, most recently by targeting a sprawling Nissan plant in Canton, Miss., where workers’ average wages are $1.50 an hour less than those at a comparable Nissan factory near Nashville.

But winning a union vote will be a daunting task.

Foreign auto plants have been providing jobs and expanding during a down economy, while their U.S. auto-industry counterparts were closing plants and laying off workers.

CanagaRetna said “Nissan workers average $60,000 a year

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Submitted Sep 04, 2012 By: DellDude2

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 11:05:03 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Perhaps that's why some areas are still dirt poor?
nevaeh04 Rookie Author Texas Posts:82 Points:172,155 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:17:07 AM Ignore nevaeh04 Report Abuse very intresting
IrishCowboy Champion Author Fort Wayne Posts:1,432 Points:573,225 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 1:49:02 PM Ignore IrishCowboy Report Abuse It's clear they don't want the union. So why try? Oh, yeah, because the unions always know better what's good for the worker than the worker does....
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,008 Points:599,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 1:12:46 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,077 Points:1,972,915 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:18:31 AM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse Leave it to the unions to screw things up.
alex395 Champion Author Louisville Posts:2,050 Points:276,710 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 7:41:36 AM Ignore alex395 Report Abuse All you have to understand is how everyone got screwed in the Government Motors bailout except the unions. Obama did it. Unions like outside toilets are a thing of the past.
mrpc90 Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,152 Points:1,928,190 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 7:09:14 AM Ignore mrpc90 Report Abuse My next vehicle will be from a NON-union plant, and WON'T be from one of the big three.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:7,074 Points:1,628,200 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 4:03:41 AM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse When economy is near or in recession, unions go in contraction mode
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:329,335 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 2:33:09 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Workers have figured out that the Unions' purpose is not to protect workers, but to make money.
cfn All-Star Author Ontario Posts:790 Points:125,325 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 1:20:26 AM Ignore cfn Report Abuse We can't blame what happened to the big three only on the unions. For years they never bothered with R&D, just the minimum, just freshen it up a bit and sell it as the new model year, while the Japonese continued advancing. Ford for example was in way over its head when they bought into so many other buisnesess. Once they sold off and concentrated on their main purpose, car and truck production, they turned around. You would not believe how many salaried workers were let go (supervisors). Production line workers are not just standing around, the company lays off workers until the line barely runs, they do not keep excess, workers on. If you think it's easy work, you should go on a tour of a local plant and imagine yourself doing the same thing over and over again 600-700 times per shift.
cfn All-Star Author Ontario Posts:790 Points:125,325 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 1:01:21 AM Ignore cfn Report Abuse All we have to do is look at countries that do not allow unions. Look at the injury and death rate, even though most are not reported there, you will still see a staggering difference. If you got hurt or killed on the job, would you not want your family to receive some kind of assistance . Or would you simply be happy knowing that company profits are at an all time high, and the execs. still make their millions. Nothing against them making their money, but they should share some with the men amd women that put them there. Both in the USA and Canada, the only time companys started caring about worker safety was when the unions got involved, and this set a precedent that other non-union companys had to follow to this day. Even causing the govern. to bring in worker protection.
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:6,864 Points:1,357,725 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 12:58:16 AM Ignore comprof Report Abuse Typical unions. Kill jobs by chasing jobs overseas.
cfn All-Star Author Ontario Posts:790 Points:125,325 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 12:50:21 AM Ignore cfn Report Abuse I agree unions do need a change to keep up with economic times, and they have done that. Last contract they agreed to cuts and wage freezes, while most other unionized companies took raises. Going back to what julesTN said about Walmart, he is right, they did abandon any community that would unionize the store. Why, so they can do what ever they want to the employee! If they see a group of workers talking they discourage it. What have they done in the communities they enter, drive all others out of business, then gradually raise prices. How many products can you find in a Walmart made in USA, or Canada. Maybe 4-5% the rest is all made in China and other countries that don't have or recognize workers rights and safety needs. If you get hurt, just move over because they'll put someone else in your place.
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,990 Points:2,527,310 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:19:40 PM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse ok
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:12:26 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Unions have gone way beyond their original cause. Thsy need to be drastically changed. They cost employes & citizenry too much money with what theve gotten . They need t give back a lot or be destroyed.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:7,908 Points:1,545,285 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:12:12 PM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse I still wonder how many people would be so "righteous" as to turn down a union job if one were offered to them and their family.
69Bonne Champion Author Gary Posts:1,155 Points:474,125 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:11:15 PM Ignore 69Bonne Report Abuse Why would they if the non-union guys can make a decent wage.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,497 Points:1,511,355 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:10:57 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Labor and the unions used to be a movement. It is now a business.
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:1,981 Points:411,595 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:09:26 PM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse Before it was KISS singing Detroit Rock City during the auto industry's heyday now it will be Kenny Chesney singing Canton Country City as Nissan moves south
urban_dweller Champion Author Orlando Posts:1,829 Points:72,465 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:09:19 PM Ignore urban_dweller Report Abuse what joel27nc said
Matt G Champion Author Boston Posts:4,538 Points:2,774,015 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:07:30 PM Ignore Matt G Report Abuse Ok
rollercoaster All-Star Author Hartford Posts:502 Points:567,660 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:07:13 PM Ignore rollercoaster Report Abuse .
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,542 Points:1,859,345 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:06:13 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Unions suck.
HEBster Champion Author Kentucky Posts:8,793 Points:2,375,000 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:06:03 PM Ignore HEBster Report Abuse Non-Union!
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,901 Points:773,245 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:05:01 PM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse crooks
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,473 Points:663,925 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:04:39 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Unions suck.
Toppers Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,017 Points:2,471,670 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:04:26 PM Ignore Toppers Report Abuse Not gonna happen!
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,310 Points:1,638,920 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:02:21 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse GOOD LUCK!
jcurley Champion Author California Posts:7,908 Points:1,776,220 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:01:59 PM Ignore jcurley Report Abuse Yep! The GOP hates the middle class (how dare they expect a living wage!) and the faster the GOP can get rid of them, the faster they can give our social security and medicare trust funds over to the wall street shysters.
Math6149 All-Star Author Jacksonville Posts:873 Points:1,797,250 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 11:01:43 PM Ignore Math6149 Report Abuse obama wants all to be union.
julesTN Veteran Author Nashville Posts:383 Points:164,870 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:59:20 PM Ignore julesTN Report Abuse Nissan does NOT want unions - they just MIGHT leave the country if they entered into the workplace - look at WalMart - when they tried to enter some Canadian cities and the union was a certainty, WalMart just pulled the plug - a big finger to the unions!
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,670 Points:769,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:58:58 PM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse Ok
radiorumor Champion Author Texas Posts:2,817 Points:754,835 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:58:03 PM Ignore radiorumor Report Abuse If you’re rich, you hate them. If you’re the worker, unions give you a fighting chance. $60,000 is reasonable. Not everyone can walk in a suit making millions annually.
geepy All-Star Author Long Island Posts:779 Points:521,595 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:57:47 PM Ignore geepy Report Abuse yeah just like g,, the japanese will close the plant and move to china
armey Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,296 Points:310,255 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:56:42 PM Ignore armey Report Abuse OK!
kishoreCA Champion Author Ventura Posts:3,123 Points:393,870 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:56:38 PM Ignore kishoreCA Report Abuse no unions...
canfranchiser Veteran Author Riverside Posts:418 Points:396,760 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:55:19 PM Ignore canfranchiser Report Abuse maybe the unions could put nissan out of business.
76chevy Champion Author Toledo Posts:3,992 Points:770,140 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:54:10 PM Ignore 76chevy Report Abuse ?
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,071 Points:1,732,210 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:53:22 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse great idea look what uaw has done for or to GM ran them right out of bus.
texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:3,835 Points:360,670 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:53:22 PM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse Where the union goes, the jobs leave.
Tucker16 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:1,160 Points:544,150 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:53:20 PM Ignore Tucker16 Report Abuse Need to push 'em out of the domestic factories!
sappie Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,506 Points:586,820 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:50:10 PM Ignore sappie Report Abuse ok
nozzle46 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:6,695 Points:1,473,050 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:46:52 PM Ignore nozzle46 Report Abuse $1.50? Will that even cover dues?
gass12 Champion Author Omaha Posts:8,394 Points:2,305,440 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:45:54 PM Ignore gass12 Report Abuse Looks likes a tough job for the UAW.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,932 Points:1,576,930 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:40:34 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse as car sales hang in the balance as does the country---will we doule dip, will gas continue to rise, will the current bus driver for the country finish the job and drive us off of a cliff?
fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:3,355 Points:675,065 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:38:31 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse interesting...
southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,600 Points:688,175 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:37:15 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse and gas goes up
Holly123 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:3,207 Points:791,185 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:33:39 PM Ignore Holly123 Report Abuse The majority rules. I don't have much of an opinion here.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,945 Points:1,926,535 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:32:36 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse cfn, That shows other side of this issue.
cfn All-Star Author Ontario Posts:790 Points:125,325 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 10:28:26 PM Ignore cfn Report Abuse China does need the UAW or some organization like it. Do some research on working conditions there, would you put up with it. When all the construction was going on for the Beijing olympics a few years back, do you know how many people lost their lives. During construction of the "bird nest" as it was called olympic stadium, did you know workers were not allowed wash room breaks, they actually wore diapers on the job so as not to slow down construction. That alone makes the union dues I pay well worth it.