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Pentagon buying Chevy Volts to ‘green up’ military

The Washington Free Beacon -- The Pentagon is buying Chevrolet Volts to help “green up” the military—while propping up sales of the bailed-out automaker’s most politicized car.

The Department of Defense began purchasing the struggling luxury electric car, which retails at $40,000, this summer as part of its goal to purchase 1,500 such green vehicles. The Marine Corps Air Station in Miramar, Calif. purchased its first two Volts in July, and 18 more vehicles will come shortly to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland, where Air Force One is based, according to military magazine Stars and Stripes.

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flagtown25 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,177 Points:493,155 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:25:37 AM Ignore flagtown25 Report Abuse More waste
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 11:13:44 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse it's a start of rethinking. We'll see how long it will last.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 11:26:04 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse RonElp: Sadly, esp. when it comes to changing the old ways, you're right. ppl are negative around here.
E-Squirrel Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,014 Points:820,075 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 9:04:20 PM Ignore E-Squirrel Report Abuse Martinman complains about the language and source of this news article. "First, this story is posted from a highly political website. The type of lanuage[sic] used below is not what is used by a "news" agency." I am unsure if you are complaining more about the material of the article itself, or just about the site that published it. Why don't you find the same story on a site that you think more highly of and post it, so that we can all enjoy the more newsworthy language? I, for one would like to read it. [Edited by: E-Squirrel at 9/13/2012 10:04:51 PM EST]
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,941 Points:1,925,580 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:57:22 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse k
jbrad4 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:801 Points:477,170 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 12:18:32 PM Ignore jbrad4 Report Abuse The Chevy Volt is a great car that will run on gas or electricity. It will save a lot of money when running electric.
TustinDad Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,281 Points:907,565 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:57:46 AM Ignore TustinDad Report Abuse Very well put, RonElp. Thank you!
RonElp All-Star Author El Paso Posts:763 Points:109,620 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:37:21 AM Ignore RonElp Report Abuse It constantly amazes me how negative people are on the forums. Constantly blaming OBAMA or Bush or the government for all of our woes. Sue the good ole USA has problems, But other countries are much worse. I live on the border with Mexico and our sister city Juarez had 10,000 innocent people (even a school with little kids) killed in 2011. It is dangerous to be on the streets Day or night. The cartels killed lots of Police (local and federal). Greece's economy is in the dumpster much worse than ours. People stave and die of diseases in Africa. Unless you live in someplace like the Netherlands life has its problems. Sure our government could be run leaner. There is a lot of greed and corruption here. But the greedy corrupt people think they are in the right. (Don't make it right, though) I will be the first to admit that the USA has some problems, lots of countries are much worse than ours. It is no one persons fault... but is our collective diversity. Rich want to get richer and as Americans they have that right. Middle class want to get by and move-up a little. The poor would like to be better off. Much of the time their problems Come from their poverty. Why not try and keep these threads more positive and factual. If you think that the military spent too much money on electric vehicles Say so... but be constructive. To blame it on OBAMA, or ROMNEY or Bush is ludicrous. They are not kings or dictators. Remember we have Congressmen and Senators... All working for the people in their districts. Sure our government makes mistakes and overspends... but I'll bet everyone has made a few mistakes and paid to much for something. Come on guys lets be more positive. You'll have a much happier life... and you'll probably live longer and maybe even prosper. [Edited by: RonElp at 9/12/2012 11:40:20 AM EST]
TustinDad Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,281 Points:907,565 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:36:03 AM Ignore TustinDad Report Abuse RedRam2005 wrote: "Government Motors has found another way to "fix the books" to look more profitable...Why does anyone at Miramar need a luxury car?" You call Volt a luxury car? Wow! You have have pretty low demands on luxury in Texas.
RedRam2005 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:7,744 Points:1,498,965 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 9:56:57 AM Ignore RedRam2005 Report Abuse Government Motors has found another way to "fix the books" to look more profitable...Why does anyone at Miramar need a luxury car? Government waste and entitlement.
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:14,739 Points:2,093,830 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 8:52:45 AM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse First, this story is posted from a highly political website. The type of lanuage used below is not what is used by a "news" agency. So, instead of simply buying the political rhetoric, stop to think for a minute. How large is your average military base? Outside of retiree pension and healthcare costs, the military's next largest cost is for fuel. The average distance for most on-base trips is just a few miles - even 'round-trip' on base driving is less than the Volts electric-only range, even at Andrews AFB. Travel generally done at 30mph or less, with repeated stop-signs. The least fuel-efficient phase of driving regardless of the vehicle - low-speed stop-and-go traffic. Having a fleet of all-electric staff vehicles is probably one of the biggest fuel-saving strategies a base could employ. You already have electricians as part of your enlisted force. An internal electric grid infrastructure that can handle numerous electric vehicle charging needs. Not to mention you can place vehicle chargers anywhere on base, because the base 'owns' everything, eliminating the 'not in my back yard' complaints. Within the United States, the U.S. government is the largest single consumer of gasoline, diesel fuel, and jet fuel. And within the federal government, the military is the largest single consumer of all three. During the Iraq war, the DoD was consuming more than 1.5 million gallons of fuel PER DAY - that is 1/5 what all the cars in the U.S. use on a daily basis. And let's not forget, that the DoD buys and replaces tens-of-thousands of vehicles annually. Following the government rescuing Chrysler in 1979, Congress and the Reagan administration bought tens-of-thousands of Chrysler K-cars and Dodge pickups. For quite some time, Chrysler products were the only vehicles bought if they had a vehicle that met the specific military need. Personally, I see this as a very effective cost-cutting strategy by the military. Remember, it is Congress that authorizes the DoD budget, not the White House. And it is each local base that manages its own operating budgets, not Congress nor the White House. So, why would any credible reporting agency have such a negative take, on a program that will save the DoD millions in fuel costs? [Dana Carvey "Church Lady" voice-over] Could it be the 'SATAN'...!? ----- The 'Washington Beacon' is nothing little more than a conservative political blog website. Just look at their "stories", and the tone of the language used: Obama and The Pimp With The Limp: Update: Limping pimp stands by claim that POTUS interview conducted live this morning (Really...?) Rampage in Cairo: Free speech and U.S. Embassy under attack in Egyptian capital (Would you define that video as "free speech"?) Arab World Celebrates 9/11 by Blaming Attacks on Israel, U.S. Jews (Yeah, that's appropriate) Israel, Lies, and Videotape (a little more 'hate', anyone...?) House Boy Blues: Report: Husband of Democratic donor accused of sexually harassing domestic worker ('House Boy' - now there's an appropriate comment from the 'religious conservative base') The Cairo-Tehran Express: Egyptian-Iranian intelligence meeting prompts fears of a new Middle East terror axis (gotta love that thought-logic process...) Controversial Couture: Obama campaign: Dr. Biden wears costume jewelry (What? She wears jewelry...?) Charles G. Koch: Corporate Cronyism Harms America (Pot, calling Kettle... call on Line One) (well, at least you can argue they're clearly "experts" on buying influence) Drone program something you 'struggle with,' Obama says (Hey! Its not like they're taking this out-of-context here or anything...) Obama Gave The Chicago Teachers Union A Shout Out In 2008 (I don't know what offends him more - the concept of a 'shout-out', or the fact that he can't find anything newer than 2008...) DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz Fundraises Off Sexist Insults (like all conservative fund raisers are darling little angels...) ----- Amazing how blinded people have become, solely as a result of their politics... This is the reason WHY America is failing... . [Edited by: Martinman at 9/12/2012 9:59:37 AM EST]
PatAZ Champion Author Tucson Posts:9,249 Points:122,380 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 8:24:26 AM Ignore PatAZ Report Abuse Good luck with that, do they come with free fire extinguishers?
S10Homer All-Star Author Fort Worth Posts:842 Points:214,995 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 8:00:34 AM Ignore S10Homer Report Abuse Ok
mrpc90 Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,147 Points:1,927,365 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 6:55:35 AM Ignore mrpc90 Report Abuse Pentagon buying Chevy Volts to help prop up GM and support Obama's BAD decisions.
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:15,546 Points:2,454,915 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 6:25:32 AM Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse How many ways can subsidize GM?
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:6,399 Points:1,355,870 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 12:57:24 AM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse Pricey
Eugenian Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,867 Points:363,105 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 12:54:49 AM Ignore Eugenian Report Abuse Good.
abacus44 Champion Author Toms River Posts:3,485 Points:748,715 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:36:32 PM Ignore abacus44 Report Abuse Story should read: "Pentagon overspending so that Obama can save face."
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,486 Points:2,102,990 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:29:37 PM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse Did you expect anything else. The majority holder in General Motors is the U.S. government.
kgbellman Champion Author Ann Arbor Posts:2,718 Points:732,815 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:24:33 PM Ignore kgbellman Report Abuse This could be interesting
broken80530 Champion Author Denver Posts:3,151 Points:733,475 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:23:04 PM Ignore broken80530 Report Abuse But thats our money! If you tell one lie you will have to tell endless lies to cover it up. So if you thrw money at a bad thing you will have to continue to do so to make it look like it is not a bad thing. It sounded better in my head!
broken80530 Champion Author Denver Posts:3,151 Points:733,475 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:20:05 PM Ignore broken80530 Report Abuse Somebody has to buy them!
KrsnaDragon Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,412 Points:531,525 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:19:08 PM Ignore KrsnaDragon Report Abuse I'll be happy not to own or drive a Chevy Volt.
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,990 Points:2,527,310 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:16:08 PM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse BS
TustinDad Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,281 Points:907,565 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:13:56 PM Ignore TustinDad Report Abuse Bigwaynef wrote: "Wow what awaste of money, half of em will get stranded out in the middle of nowhere with no power to charge" You have absolutely no idea what a Volt is, do you? If you did, you wouldn't post something stupid like that. Go back and check the facts before you open your mouth again.
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,723 Points:388,950 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:13:38 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse I think your right. They are Secret Weapons.
langolera Champion Author Akron Posts:1,766 Points:666,955 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:13:24 PM Ignore langolera Report Abuse but they are losing $40,000 per unit sold. How can they sell these?
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,800 Points:414,090 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:12:42 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse The Volt has a gasoline engine, @Bigwaynef. You can't get stranded unless you run out of gas.
unicornpmb Champion Author Buffalo Posts:8,491 Points:1,629,515 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:12:23 PM Ignore unicornpmb Report Abuse Maybe they are a secret weapon.
amearly Champion Author Michigan Posts:12,119 Points:2,467,610 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:11:14 PM Ignore amearly Report Abuse So we get taken twice?
Bigwaynef Champion Author South Carolina Posts:11,480 Points:2,081,735 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:10:21 PM Ignore Bigwaynef Report Abuse Wow what awaste of money, half of em will get stranded out in the middle of nowhere with no power to charge...
Hi1 Champion Author Ontario Posts:4,855 Points:1,724,610 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:10:00 PM Ignore Hi1 Report Abuse That is good for GM also.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,473 Points:663,175 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:09:52 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse What a waste of tax revenue!!!!!
souly Champion Author Montreal Posts:1,765 Points:432,370 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:08:44 PM Ignore souly Report Abuse thanks for the post
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,748 Points:983,225 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:08:16 PM Ignore nru Report Abuse Hey Sportdeck - the thing is we are not going to be supporting the terrorists and the commies - when you use oil it props up Putin and Al Quaeda - they both benefit from high priced oil - go armed forces - this is the kind of thing we need to be doing, plus it is American made. Buying gas supports Dubai corporations (terrorist supporters - no Americans there) and Putin - do we want to support our enemies???? Driving a pickup may be redneck, but it does nothing for America, and simply supports out enemies.
biza4u Champion Author New Haven Posts:8,523 Points:1,627,900 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:07:32 PM Ignore biza4u Report Abuse At least they are buying American
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dieselme2011 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:2,600 Points:603,815 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:07:09 PM Ignore dieselme2011 Report Abuse More tax money down the drain
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,575 Points:2,446,110 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:05:56 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse nother Solyndra in the making ??
GigHarborHound Champion Author Tacoma Posts:2,537 Points:488,490 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:05:42 PM Ignore GigHarborHound Report Abuse Political BS!!!
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carinthuist Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,250 Points:330,525 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:04:57 PM Ignore carinthuist Report Abuse great
visitor_2 Champion Author Orlando Posts:1,652 Points:1,637,155 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:04:47 PM Ignore visitor_2 Report Abuse Green up military or boost up GM?
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,537 Points:1,858,370 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:02:57 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse really?
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Sportdeck Champion Author Atlanta Posts:12,964 Points:2,481,440 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 11:02:10 PM Ignore Sportdeck Report Abuse It was cost justified using the $50/gallon bio-fuel that the military is being forced to buy, and then it will be recharged for free using Solyndra solar panels. Under this model, the GM bailout and Solyndra stimulus will be cost effective in no time. If you think this is a good idea, I'd like to buy some of your ocean front property in AZ, Just send me the title. Don't worry, the check is in the mail.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:7,074 Points:1,628,200 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:59:16 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse And how expensive will they be?
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,421 Points:423,875 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:59:00 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Yea, President Barack Hussein Obama, that is the way to shore up our military. Way to go. NOT!
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,095 Points:1,623,180 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:56:16 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse Our Joint Cheifs are great planners and are extremely competent. Nice to see some wonderful and ethical managers in a large organization.
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,297 Points:1,560,265 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2012 10:55:43 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse No surprise here....