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Time to ease up on C.A.F.E. mandates?

GasBuddy Blog -- When Congress passed the $105 billion Surface Transportation Extension Act in June, its first major transportation bill since 2005, it secured funding for the Highway Trust Fund, the critical key funding source that reimburses states for spending on roads, bridges, mass transit and other transportation projects. That measure was essential to pay for hundreds if not thousands of badly needed infrastructure improvements.

But, the bill ensures that highway and transportation funding remains at its current level only through the end of fiscal year 2014. Was it worth the effort?

Many news organizations logically suggested that Congress needs to pass long-term legislation that does one of the following: A) raises the federal...

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Submitted Jul 18, 2012 By: PD

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 6:59:15 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse the taxes are still more wasted than being used in a positive manner, that's the bottom line.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,984 Points:1,107,465 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 9:04:27 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Actually Honda...personal federal taxes are much lower.... but because the GOP has pushed for the businesses to get away with virtually no taxes, the impact has cause financial hardship that has been shunted to the state, county and local levels and even brought an increase in "fees" (what the GOP used to call taxes before they changed their minds)..... On paper, the corporate tax is about 35 percent. The REAL effective rate for businesses is less than the rate Romney claimed he paid last year. The US economy boomed decades ago when America had a multi-legged tax system supporting it..... Now, the business legs have virtually disappeared compared to past levels.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 6:09:01 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse funny how everyone whines about taxes. It's not the taxes (which are the lowest in a long time for most people), but it's how the taxes are spent that creates such a big hole in the Beltway (and other) coffers.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 6:07:45 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Gnusman: that wouldn't work b/c the government isn't importing anything per se, so there's no money to be had.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,984 Points:1,107,465 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 4:10:01 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse How about take money from the drop in import costs for foreign oil and move half to maintain and repair roads and bridges...
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,984 Points:1,107,465 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 4:07:38 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse It would be nice if the people screaming about CAFE would like to go back to getting less than 10 mpg when they pay more than $4 a gallon.... Personally, I miss my Metro (54mpg highway).... and still waiting for a replacement to come from American car companies.....
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,984 Points:1,107,465 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 12:40:35 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse The GOP freeze on CAFE standards put the US decades behind the rest of the world...
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,984 Points:1,107,465 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 12:39:30 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse But CAFE has nothing to do with taxes....and much to do with modernizing American carmakers to catch up with the rest of the world..
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,984 Points:1,107,465 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 12:37:32 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Seems the 1 percenters claimed they were taxed enough already decades ago... and pushed the taxes all onto the middle class and every one else...
VanIsleLes All-Star Author British Columbia Posts:898 Points:274,445 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 1:33:37 AM Ignore VanIsleLes Report Abuse gotta keep them safe
wshutton Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,651 Points:920,375 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 10:34:38 PM Ignore wshutton Report Abuse K
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,272 Points:1,555,415 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 8:33:12 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse Taxed Enough Already!!!
jbrad4 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:798 Points:472,885 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 2:57:09 PM Ignore jbrad4 Report Abuse No, we don't need to ease up on CAFE requirements.
gas_too_high Champion Author Columbus Posts:11,521 Points:1,929,440 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 2:28:09 PM Ignore gas_too_high Report Abuse CAFE and it's fleetwide standards were always the wrong approach. A much more sensible approach would be to evaluate individual car models, and heavily tax those models that exceed desired MPG thresholds. But instead of a visible tax that consumers can see, we get an invisible tax on car companies. In the end, consumers pay the tax, either way. But consumers are not incented to change their behavior. GTH
cricket48750 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:787 Points:410,555 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 2:21:51 PM Ignore cricket48750 Report Abuse Why can't they find a better way to construct roads that won't fall apart in a year's time? I mean - really?
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,984 Points:1,107,465 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 2:15:54 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Dynamouse...when you said "this...." were you looking in the mirror???? (grin)
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,984 Points:1,107,465 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 2:13:38 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Seems Dacofa's first name starts with AKA (grin)...
Tomeboy Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,749 Points:555,690 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:59:20 PM Ignore Tomeboy Report Abuse Did you log onto the east coast to edit your post? Original post: 12:46:07 PM Edited post: 1:53:06 PM EST
TXryder Champion Author Texas Posts:2,686 Points:428,730 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:46:07 PM Ignore TXryder Report Abuse ok thanks for posting [Edited by: TXryder at 7/19/2012 1:53:06 PM EST]
Tomeboy Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,749 Points:555,690 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:41:53 PM Ignore Tomeboy Report Abuse Presumably, no one would call President George W. Bush unfriendly to the oil industry. Yet the price of gasoline rose steadily during most of his administration. In February 2001, just after Mr. Bush took office, the average price of regular gasoline was $1.45 a gallon. By June 2008, that price had risen to $4.05. Still think presidents and oil-friendly policies can determine oil prices? It’s true that by the end of the Bush presidency, prices had fallen back to $1.69, as oil prices plummeted with the rest of the global economy. But I think we can all agree that a global financial crisis is too high a price to pay for cheap gasoline.
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,707 Points:1,815,855 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:16:46 PM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse No, keep them on-going.
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,052 Points:1,967,940 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:10:15 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse NO! Michigan highways are the PITS!
Gascapade Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,002 Points:478,680 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:09:42 PM Ignore Gascapade Report Abuse Dynamouse, ROTFLMAO, Before Obama, gas was at $1.68/gal because we were at the brink on an economic abyss, engineered by eight years of an utterly incompetent Repuplican anministration...
naiiawah Champion Author Boise Posts:2,370 Points:685,850 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:07:25 PM Ignore naiiawah Report Abuse no
ARCO Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:2,328 Points:2,373,370 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:04:59 PM Ignore ARCO Report Abuse ON EVERY TAX IT DOES
dacofa Champion Author Nevada Posts:5,367 Points:1,145,975 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:03:42 PM Ignore dacofa Report Abuse News organizations, aka liberal butt cheeks that know nothing and just want to sell copy.
pachukdog1 Champion Author Pensacola Posts:1,727 Points:375,000 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:03:35 PM Ignore pachukdog1 Report Abuse yep
Gascapade Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,002 Points:478,680 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:02:56 PM Ignore Gascapade Report Abuse Fund it by streamlining the huge waste in military industrial complex programs.....
firechief Champion Author New York Posts:3,426 Points:2,063,125 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:02:54 PM Ignore firechief Report Abuse ugh
dynamouse Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,486 Points:1,746,825 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:02:34 PM Ignore dynamouse Report Abuse Before obama gas was at$1.68,obama wants gas at $5-6 a gal,he stopped the pipe line ,held up drilling permits in the gulf ,wasted tax money on green technology,gave tax payer money to Brazil to drill and told them the USA would be one of there best customers,this CLOWN has to go.
papou Champion Author Tampa Posts:10,864 Points:1,902,335 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:02:22 PM Ignore papou Report Abuse money goes someplace else ,not were its intended.
JoeKR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,453 Points:1,741,970 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 12:00:18 PM Ignore JoeKR Report Abuse We must look at the rationale given for imposing any tax, then be watchful that this is the only use of the funds raised. That Fed taxes haven't been raised in x amount of years I meaningless. The tax act itself should include the mechanism for generating enough money of the intended purpose.
grammamNV Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,335 Points:372,425 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:59:56 AM Ignore grammamNV Report Abuse wait 'til november
Tekkie Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:4,333 Points:913,630 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:59:05 AM Ignore Tekkie Report Abuse Obozo flip flopping.
gasper Champion Author Edmonton Posts:4,480 Points:1,366,460 Joined:Mar 2002	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:56:23 AM Ignore gasper Report Abuse I guess its just a way for politicians to say yes the gas tax is fixing roads for you.
mrinmoyd Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,095 Points:364,525 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:56:18 AM Ignore mrinmoyd Report Abuse yes
vjs3 Champion Author Denver Posts:2,521 Points:645,915 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:55:08 AM Ignore vjs3 Report Abuse Politics....
mabrams184 Champion Author Lexington Posts:2,085 Points:530,055 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:51:45 AM Ignore mabrams184 Report Abuse To get the votes most politicians like to be seen creating new roads, bridges or other infrastructure, but they don,t want to make sure the funding will always be there to keep up that same infrastructure. It just doesn't get them the publicity they crave.
pper Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,064 Points:665,870 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:50:59 AM Ignore pper Report Abuse They talk of taxing per mile. With Obama trying to do away with gasoline and push us into electrics gas tax isn't going to work much longer.
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,527 Points:273,590 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:48:43 AM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse Political footballs are never worth the price charged.
rodzilla123 Champion Author San Diego Posts:4,380 Points:1,030,365 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:45:49 AM Ignore rodzilla123 Report Abuse Not in a Congressman best interest. As a Congressman / woman, it is your business to bring home the Bacon each and Every year so you can be seen as making progress for your State or Area and thus get Re-Elected. Remember, the first duty of every Congressman is to Get Re Elected, PERIOD.
jimmy544 Champion Author Boston Posts:4,074 Points:649,855 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:45:35 AM Ignore jimmy544 Report Abuse Now is not the time to ease off the the CAFE standards. Now is the time to reform the taxes that pay for the roads. The truckers do not pay their fair share of road wear and tear. It has been estimated that heavy trucks can cause up to 10,000 times as much wear as a passenger car. Trucks only pay about 3-4 times as much as cars. decreasing the rate of taxes during fuel spikes and increasing the taxes on dropping costs is one way of helping stabilize fuel prices and it may have some merit. Tolls may be another way of dealing with the problem also. Users must pay but cars pay too much and trucks do not pay enough. Maybe we all need to pay according to weight and miles traveled.
TRAIN RIDER Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:9,062 Points:2,753,820 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:45:35 AM Ignore TRAIN RIDER Report Abuse It is always time for the government to ease up on regulations.
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,005 Points:1,309,220 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:45:30 AM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse Old News.
bevmill Champion Author Georgia Posts:2,557 Points:596,320 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:44:22 AM Ignore bevmill Report Abuse ok
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ultm8opie Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,189 Points:531,805 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:42:48 AM Ignore ultm8opie Report Abuse ok
toxigas Champion Author Oakland Posts:1,192 Points:404,340 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:42:26 AM Ignore toxigas Report Abuse Nice bit of logical reasoning there... ... if the only thing that matters is how CAFE standards are tied to infrastructure. But in the big picture, there is more at stake.
wang91554 Champion Author San Jose Posts:3,145 Points:1,196,830 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:42:21 AM Ignore wang91554 Report Abuse politicians have very short views. Don't we know that already?
slowpoke63 Champion Author Louisiana Posts:2,722 Points:883,965 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:42:02 AM Ignore slowpoke63 Report Abuse ok