honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 5:18:39 AM
hopefully the kid hired to hacks the code will have some better spelling skills than some folks on here.
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spud5559

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Yakima
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:28:02 PM
i thik youall don't remember who the goverment is it's you&i we vote them in or out if you don't vote you have nothing to say.
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spud5559

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Yakima
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 11:21:15 PM
well i guess they want all the money. the repair shop just need too hire some kid too hack the code
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 4:54:22 AM
sadly, the consumer allowed this to happen over time, now the consumer screams for the government to fix it. Sadly, at the same time, said consumer complains about too much government intervention and regulation.
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mrjames1818

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 1:05:33 AM
YES - would be a break for the consumer to have a choice.
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bikerchicklette

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Washington
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:38:52 AM
ok
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tutaw

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 7:44:04 PM
yeah
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slowtrain

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 4:55:46 PM
Yesterday's news.
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wilbur476

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 4:02:20 PM
Wow, this guy's got a really good idea, if it passes and if it works. My mom have a Seville (2000, so don't get the idea that she's wealthy and can afford whatever the market throws at her.
She has to go to a 'special' guy who is trained by Cadillac, and I suspect he charges Caddy prices. She told him once that his latest invoice would break her for the rest of the month, and he just stared at her like she was crazy. All old ladies are millionaires, right? That was the attitude.
Now the AC has stopped blowing cold, and instead of going to get that simple service done, she's afraid because every time she goes for scheduled/minor maintenance, they hit her with anywher from $500 to the most recent, $3000. She bought the extremely long warranty.
Thank the Lord that warranty is about to lapse and she can go go a real mechanic with a name patch, not a gold-plated tag; and one who wears Dickies uniforms instead of a suit and tie (yeah, really he does that).
I'm not very mechanical, but I'm going on DIY or something similar to see if I can recharge it. I wouldn't be surprised if they have some special tool, computer or 'magic' coolant to thwart the DIY types.
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stonecold5005

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Waco
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:37:27 PM
ok
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RAE344

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:22:57 PM
This looks like an anti-union bill.
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Taurus1

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:14:42 PM
I'm interested in a right to repair.
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pulpwood

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:10:42 PM
you gotta pay to play.
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willp99

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:09:42 PM
Too many laws.
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blazerbob91

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:09:10 PM
Stealership have had to long
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THX138

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:09:02 PM
k
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dacofa

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:06:34 PM
Parts changers is all you have now anyway.
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rmhastalavictor

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:00:47 PM
This is a needed law. we need to know if its a good care or just a money pit.
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DYSKYPILOT

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:58:42 PM
Pass the legislation!!!!
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night_raider

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:58:34 PM
i've never run into a problem that had to be fixed by a dealer only.
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Samo1961

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:58:18 PM
Why recycle old news??
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gr649

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:51:56 PM
ok
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gws2980

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:51:07 PM
They will still have to pass on the cost to the customer
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GasSpy007

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New York City
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:47:44 PM
Just another way to get us by the cahonies..
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chicoCA

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California
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:46:11 PM
okay
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driveonby1

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:44:42 PM
Right on.
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JimL1

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:44:08 PM
A guy named Henry Ford started all this over a century, when he had his engineers design in the requirement for special tools that only the dealerships could acquire. I would love to have a law that required that manufacturers provide any and all devices usually used to repair their vehicles at the same price that they make them available to the dealers.
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jerej829

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Memphis
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:39:49 PM
ok
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CPGas1815

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:39:31 PM
Sure technology can provide benefits. But Technology also comes with a rather hefty price.
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91Hilux

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:36:16 PM
I'm all for this!!!
When I lived in Japan, the Automakers (and other corporations) conspired to withhold this information from the consumers, and managed to throw enough money at legislators to make it happen. The poor consumers are completely held hostage by these corporations. Just imagine living in a country that: - Haynes / Chilton manuals aren't available. - Kelly's Blue Book is a CLASSIFIED document ONLY available to insurance companies and Car Dealers - When you get your vehicle inspected at the DMV, they don't tell you what's wrong, they just hand you a bill of what they DID in order to get it to pass (burned out tail light = $30, old shocks changed = $700...)
I'm seeing America sliding in that direction: Corporations allowed to vote/act live living persons, SuperPACs, etc....
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kzza100

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:35:37 PM
yup
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PathTrack

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:35:29 PM
This is the thanks we get for bailing them out
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Gramps001

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:31:00 PM
More socialistic thinking!
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BobbyVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:29:25 PM
This is not fair to consumers. There are diagnostic machines out there that are within $ reach of the average auto owner and pinpoint the troubled areas so the backyard mechanic can fix his own vehicle.
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SUPERQUACK

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:27:58 PM
NEED IT EVERYWHERE
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kyjlh

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:25:36 PM
need in all states.
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cobbwebb

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:24:45 PM
I would like to be able to work on my own stuff. Owning 7 year old cars and motorcycles is barely keeping that chance alive
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:22:36 PM
another re election stunt
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LegoVasavouchi

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:22:36 PM
Fascinating.
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teegeesp

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Madison
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:21:48 PM
Good luck!
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VernonOR

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:19:59 PM
Yesterday news
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sprocketsplines

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Washington
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:19:52 PM
Car manufacturers should voluntarily register all essential vehicle codes with their related information in an open centralized database accessible by everyone. Unfortunately, government is now getting into the act as the voluntary registration is not working.
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dadis46

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:19:52 PM
this is old news from yesterday But i like it.
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southrob

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:16:44 PM
ford pcms are a great example
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NashGas

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:15:43 PM
What?
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briinnc

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:14:42 PM
Maybe we can get them out of the business of changing 4 spark plugs for $115 (Honda) when they were checking catalytic converter & O2 sensor. But they'll treat us like big oil does, for as long as they can.
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pmanning7843

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:14:13 PM
ok
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Susieq60

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:13:45 PM
good move
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RichFWA

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:09:26 PM
hope this helps.
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FedupwithGreed

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:07:36 PM
Control like Apple has be stopped.
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