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Delta Air Lines considers bringing N. Dakota crude to its Phila. refinery

GasBuddy Blog -- Delta Air Lines says that it is looking into buying cheaper North Dakota crude oil to feed its new refinery near Philadelphia, instead of the more expensive overseas crude that has fed the refinery in the past.

Delta bought the idled Conoco Phillips refinery at Trainer, Pa., in June. Like most East Coast refineries, it has refined mostly Brent North Sea oil that arrives by ship and is priced in London.

Brent crude has been consistently more expensive than the West Texas Intermediate crude that governs pricing for oil from North Dakota. On Thursday, WTI futures were almost $18 per barrel cheaper than those for Brent crude.

According to the Associated Press, North Dakota oil would come by train to Delta’s refinery...

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Submitted Sep 14, 2012 By: PD

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 11:00:57 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse if it works, why not...
TustinDad Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,300 Points:908,540 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 15, 2012 11:41:42 PM Ignore TustinDad Report Abuse boldrph wrote: "can i have a refinery in my backyard?" It all depends on the size of your backyard and if you want to live with the smell.
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sydb7 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,560 Points:1,919,940 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Sep 15, 2012 11:35:31 AM Ignore sydb7 Report Abuse Don't look for lower airline ticket prices, any time soon!!
Mark8601 All-Star Author Bakersfield Posts:913 Points:380,865 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Sep 15, 2012 10:46:46 AM Ignore Mark8601 Report Abuse Duh! No brainer. BNSF has improved their services to move alot of oil out of that area
TustinDad Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,300 Points:908,540 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 15, 2012 9:18:07 AM Ignore TustinDad Report Abuse OldMan322 wrote: "I did not know their was a pipeline from North Dakota to the East Coast" I don't think there is. Delta plans to use tanker trains for the oil (as it is stated in the article - just read).
OldMan322 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,160 Points:1,595,715 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 15, 2012 8:44:20 AM Ignore OldMan322 Report Abuse I did not know their was a pipeline from North Dakota to the East Coast
Wizrd03 Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,157 Points:1,633,310 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 15, 2012 7:47:47 AM Ignore Wizrd03 Report Abuse Got to reduce costs somehow. They got rid of the middleman in getting the fuel from the refinery to the airport, now they're reducing their raw material cost
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